💿 hapaxOS PUBLIC BETA 2.30 D

External MIDI in to out doesn’t seem to be output. Midi monitor out is empty. Midi thru works.

I am not mixing them up. I am using the rectangle USB port on the Hapax into one of the square ports of the Mio.

I had no idea the new model removed one of the PC USB ports. I had never used that feature before this project, but it sucks to see that it is gone.

The picture is my channel config for my Iridium

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Ah lol yeah I’m mixing the names up, my bad.

anyway, I still have a mio4 which also has 2 pc usb channels, which I can easily add to my mioXL over ethernet, or just use ethernet straight to my pc..

but thanks for the great insight about what’s possible with the virtual cables, even in a DAWless situation!

Regarding Osmose → Hapax MPE recording and playback:

The Hapax does not seem to be able to record fast articulation from the Osmose in MPE mode in a way that accurately plays back on port 2. If I play a bunch of staccato presses that reach down to the bottom of the keybed and retract quickly, the recorded mpe data on the hapax plays back through the eagan matrix as very quiet, like it is not actually catching the full key press. This doesn’t neccisarily surprise me, as the way haken handles the attack on their instruments is very unique with the MPE + and reconfigured 14bit data. however, this makes this osmose update pretty much unusable unless you are exclusively doing undynamic or slow articulation playing.

Is there something that I am missing? If anybody has gotten the hapax to accurately play back staccato notes through the eagan matrix, PLEASE let me know!

Another question with hapax… what the hell is going on with the midi clock on port 1 when using the MPE arp on the osmose? One of the coolest features on the osmose and it can’t be used with Hapax seemingly. My dream was to be able to record different MPE arpeggiations into the hapax and play them back accurately through the matrix.

Very very sad that I cannot get this to work (and I have tried ALL configurations I can think of including using midi-ox, different daws din to usb, usb to din, etc). Please tell me that there is a way to hear the eagan matrix play back properly through the hapax!!!

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Hi Mikei,

Yes, there is an issue with the PB routing with this parameter, it has been fixed already and will be released in the next (final I hope) BETA versions!

Cheers!

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WOW! That was fast. Thank you :star_struck:

If I play a bunch of staccato presses that reach down to the bottom of the keybed and retract quickly, the recorded mpe data on the hapax plays back through the eagan matrix as very quiet, like it is not actually catching the full key press.

Have experienced this issue, workaround for me was to go into Osmose ‘ext midi’ mode and in the sensitivity menu change the “note on”, velocity, pressure and aftertouch curve settings.

the way haken handles the attack on their instruments is very unique with the MPE + and reconfigured 14bit data. however, this makes this osmose update pretty much unusable

In ‘ext midi’ mode on the ‘velocity/press’ and ‘aftertouch’ menus, start with “extreme” then keep tweaking. Results vary per Osmose preset but it’s definitely not unusable for staccato.

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Unfortunately, I’m still noticing frequent jitter on this update. Its not really noticeable when sequencing solely on the Hapax, but when i’m running another sequencer simultaneously (MPC 2500), the jitters are causing my MPC to fall out of time very noticeably. I’ve tested this with various configurations and settings but it still seems to be an issue that wasn’t present before this new beta :frowning:

Try downgrading and see if it improves?

Downgraded back to 2.21 and absolutely no jitter issues. Have been running the mpc and hapax sequences on a loop for quite some time and they have been perfectly synced with no jitter. So i think that def confirms something funky going on in the beta.

@squarpadmin would be great if you guys could have a look into this :folded_hands:t5:

how are you determining jitter? im using similar setup and im not noticing jitter

I don’t have jitter either on 2.1. The newer MPCs do though. When slaved they jitter like crazy. I sold mine due to this.

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Its very audible ‘skip’ in the playback followed by the MPC falling out of time. It’s happening repeatedly like every 5-10 minutes.

I just reinstalled the beta again, so i will give it another good run to see if its still happening, but honestly was scratching my head because it was happening on both DIN and USB device outputs when using the hapax internal clock as master, but it wasn’t happening when slaved to Ableton’s clock for example

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interesting. im on hapax 2.3 > jjos2xl internal sequencer and its always been smooth sailing. i dont use midi clock from live to keep hapax in time. when i sync hapax to live i use an audio pulse from live to cv in 1 on hapax. then i send midi clock from hapax din to mpc 1000 and its as rock solid as if it were all in live. i recommend this method to sync hapax to any daw. i feel like usb midi can be problematic especially with a stock windows computer, depending of course on your windows computer’s specs. if youre not using windows this wont apply i am told but if you are and wish for a smoother UX, please check this link

Im also using CV tools in ableton to sync hapax when im using Ableton and its been rock solid. But in this case im fully DAWLESS atm preparing a live set just building tracks using Hapax as the master sending its clock out to the MPC + a couple synths. Theres no other clock signals coming into the hapax atm so cant really see what could be causing it.

I’m on emails to Squarp now so hopefully will get to the bottom of it.

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Hey diskhat, thank you for the response. I will try this, but i will say that making the velocity and aftertouch stuff “extreme” feels like it defeats the purpose of having a nuanced mpe controller. i don’t want to only record staccato notes. I want to capture a performance with many articulations. setting the midi type to extreme means i lose expression with other articulations.

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A new beta is available! https://squarp.community/t/hapaxos-public-beta-2-30-e/

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