Sync latency with Hapax sequencer to DAW

Prior to Hapax, I have been running a tight sync from my DAW (Ableton) to my drum machine (jomox allpha base). I use the Nome2 as a sync clock and machine records tightly to the DAW.

I plug the nome2 directly into the Hapax MIDI in A and it starts up perfectly on play. Hooked the Jomox MIDI in to a Hapax midi out and a pattern sequenced on the Jomox will play. It also records dead on the grid, so the clock is dialed in with the hapax now in between the nome and jomox.

The challenge I am having is when I try something like this - I open a drum rack in ableton and put a rim shot on there so I can test. I put 16 triggers across the hapax grid and it triggers the rim shot when I hit play. But when I record the MIDI from Hapax and record the audio out from the drum rack into an audio track, the latency is 26ms. I have tried to compensate with the Hapax COMP settings, but nothing seems to happen. Same with doing it in Ableton. I am not sure what other setting to check, but it seems to be related to the hapax sequencer, since if I just send clock to my drum machine from hapax, the drum machine sequencer puts the audio right on the grid. I am going to create an instrument definition for the Jomox so I can see if the latency happens when I sequence it on the hapax next.

Anyone deal with this and have ideas? I searched through here and saw suggestions to try audio clock, but that didn’t change the latency at all. I am most likely missing a setting or something in the manual, but I have gone through it and made sure everything is correct. I feel like a huge feature of Hapax is to get everything tight and lined up regardless if it is hardware or software , so I must be doing something wrong

You haven’t say how does the MIDI get from Hapax to Ableton. And how is Ableton and Nome2 sync done.

Ok so MIDI goes from hapax to ableton via the USB cable. I do not have that port sending or receiving clock sync. Just notes and commands. I just tried it where sync is being sent from ableton live and is going over the USB cable to Hapax and source is set to USB device. It is the same latency regardless of the clock source, and no matter what settings I put into Comp, nothing changes.

Nome 2 sends clock sync only to the Hapax MIDI A Port, that is my typical setup.

I finally solved it. It was an ableton issue. The hapax is now tight.

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tell us and whoever reads this what you did :+1:

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A few things - in ableton you have to make sure and have “keep latency” off. That is why I was getting long latency. Any midi channel that you program with Hapax has to have this.

The second thing is that ableton records MIDI clips with groove on. So all my stuff was swinging even though I had no swing anywhere. It is super annoying. So I made a template with all those changes and saved.

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