Can someone explain how the internal modulation works in the Matrix? specifically I want to use internal Mod 1 through 4 to mod an effect. I know how to assign the mod to an effects parameter, but I cant figure out how to actually find Mod 1, 2, 3 or 4. In order to turn it on and configure it.
Thanks for your help.
I’ve been wondering this as well. I have been able to, using the XP32, route mod outputs to the four inputs on the main unit. Doing that, I can have envelopes shape LFOs and vice versa, but the mod matrix view makes it look like you should be able to route them internally, but it doesn’t have any effect.
As an example, if I set up an envelope with a destination of “mod” and an LFO of “mod2”, and then set mod1 to control the waveform of the mod2 LFO, the mod2 output won’t change. But if I route it out through a patch cable to “input A” and have that input affect the same LFO waveform, it works fine.
Has anyone else figured this out?
It seems there’s no “live” internal modulation from CV effects to other effects via the ModMatrix. Static modulation sequences, looping CV back via the inputs, and MIDI CC all work.
@SquarpSquarp team could you confirm?
Here’s an example: Track 1 layout: 2 voices mono + modulation. Note sequence on track 1. LFO as an effect on track 1 routed to Mod. Note echo as a second effect on track 1. Track 1 CV on outputs note values with echo, track 2 CV outputs the “live” LFO.
Doesn’t work: In the ModMatrix, route Track 1 Mod to delay time - the LFO doesn’t modulate it.
Works: Change the ModMatrix so CV-A modulates the delay time. Patch track 2 CV into CV-A, delay time is modulated.
Works: Delete the LFO effect on track 1. Change the ModMatrix back so Track 1 Mod modulates delay time. Add a fixed modulation sequence to Track1 Mod. This modulates the delay time.
Works: Change the ModMatrix so that CC1 modulates delay time, modulate via a MIDI controller.
It’s also pretty clear in the manual that CV effects aren’t listed as modulation sources (quoted below). The UI is a bit confusing since you can both route CV effects to mod channels and select those channels as modulation sources.
The modulation matrix allows you to control effect parameters using various sources, such as:
— CV inputs (A, B, C or D)
— MIDI Control Messages inputs (CC1 to CC119)
— Recorded automation (MOD, MOD2, MOD3, MOD4)
I was able to confirm with support that there is no support currently for internally modulating effects from other effects, even if the source and destination names line up.
But I was able to live modulate parameters of an LFO with an envelope, and vice versa if I ran a patch cable from the mod destination to a mod input, and configured the mod matrix accordingly. It was actually pretty darn cool–I used the envelope to move through the LFO shapes and back.
Would love to be able to just do that without having to waste mod inputs. The interface, intentionally or not, seems designed to allow for this. I imagine that the processor might fall down if there were 64 internal cross-modulations happening, but I would have little need for a separate, fancy envelope or function generation module were it so.
I put in a feature request, and recommend others do the same if this is something you want to see in a future firmware.
Thanks for the confirmation! It’s also easy enough to use something like ES CVM-8 or a Tesseract Sweet 16 to expand modulation inputs via CV→MIDI CC.