MIDI Setup / New Pyramid

Hi All,

On the verge of purchasing a Pyramid for my home studio set-up I was just looking for some clarification on how to integrate all my devices so they can be played independently from the pyramid and by themselves and how I can integrate that into my DAW.

My set-up is as follows:

Synths:

Juno 106
OB-6
Korg Z1
Yamaha TQ5
SH01A
Oberheim Matrix 1000
Oberheim Matrix 1000 Editor Module

Drum Machine:

TR8S

Misc:

Kenton Midi Merge - 4
Logic Pro X

On the pyramid you have 2 midi out ports (plus CV and midi i/o over USB)

So you could chain synthesizers that have midi thru ports, and plug them all on port A
Then you plug your midi merge to pyramid port B, and plug the rest of your synth on the kenton

Then you parameter every synth that are on the same midi port (A or B), on a separate midi channel

Finally, you save the track infos and the parameter on the pyramid, that way it’s already parameter when you open the pyramid (well you also have to activate something into the option, to choose what project or template the pyramid open when you power it)

There is also other options, depending on if you want to sequence all your gear with the pyramid, or if some of them are just in sync, but I don’t want to be too confusing ;

Hope that help :slight_smile:

forgot to add, you slave the pyramid to your daw using a midi cable or a midi interface ; that way you could write midi sequence into the pyramid, or into your daw > to the pyramid ; it will also be synced to the daw :slight_smile: you can also slave the daw to the pyramid if that’s your thing ;

Thats great thanks for the info:-) how about returning midi information from all my synths how do I link them for the return IN to the squarp?

Best to use a midi merge device.

Generally not every device has to route IN to the Pyramid - only devices that send control data (keys, buttons, knobs) that need to be routed for realtime play or recording of the MIDI data.

IMO it’s a good habit to avoid connecting anything that does need to be connected to avoid MIDI loops, but I’m a moron and probably screw things up more than your average bear.

Example, perhaps: i have 5 synths. Only one is routed IN to the Pyramid, and incidentally via USB.

Unless, of course, your synths are all knobbly realtime control playgrounds and you want to record all that lusty data “live”. nom nom nom

I get your point, but I think it depends on your workflow.

If, for example, you want to live-loop all of your instruments at once – playing said instruments directly, then you’ll want to merge all that data back to the sequencer (and turn off local on each if possible, etc.)

And of course your nom nom nom example… :slight_smile:

Hi Guys,

I have got my squarp working perfectly between all my synths but I am having issues getting the squarp to integrate with logic, I think it maybe something I have missed in the midi settings or could be something in logic?

I have the squarp connected to logic via the midi usb cable, is that the best way to have information passing back and forth?

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Hi !

Is your problem solved ?

Is it solved on your side ?

I have exact similar issue with make it work well with logic back and forth .

Paq

Pyramid works fine with logic.
What is your issue? How have you configured logic?
Have you got other midi devices working with logic?

Logics manual is pretty good at describing what’s needed.

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Hi technoB ,

Many thanks for your reply . I use to have a midi hub for my external synths but now .

I have all my external synths connected in and outs to my pyramid and works pretty well .

Now I have created in logic channels with each different midi channels ( thanks to Pyramid usb midi channels ) .

If I’m using logic I’m try to use the pyramid almost like a midi hub bridge between the external hardware synths and Logic Pro .
But while I try to record one or another Midi channel I get crazy tons of midi echo loops and it gets pretty messsy .

As I wish very much to be able to record the midi sequence of my external synths sometime directly into logic for further editing …
But somehow I’m a bit lost

Appreciated your advice and hopefully you could understand my point here
Many thanks
Paq

So, Logic is send to usb midi , and then you have synths connected to midi din a/b ?

I assume all your pyramid tracks are set to midi din a/b … none to usb?!

Pyramid does not echo notes back on usb …they go to where the tracks points to.

If you are using an external synth/keyboard into midi din, and then sending it back to logic - for sure you’ll need in logic to ensure you a use different midi channels.

Are you using other hardware like a midi merger?

Clock you have to be more careful with, and ensure you do not receive and transmit clock on usb.

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So, Logic is send to usb midi , and then you have synths connected to midi din a/b ?
CORRECT

I assume all your pyramid tracks are set to midi din a/b … none to usb?!
CORRECT except SH01a and JP08 Roland

Pyramid does not echo notes back on usb …they go to where the tracks points to.
OH !

If you are using an external synth/keyboard into midi din, and then sending it back to logic - for sure you’ll need in logic to ensure you a use different midi channels.

Are you using other hardware like a midi merger?
YES , for few MidiMergers from MidiSolutions

Clock you have to be more careful with, and ensure you do not receive and transmit clock on usb.

LET me check . Somehow now sure how to make it work with logic … since I’m using and implementing Pyramid .