Incorrect Scales?

Hapax
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I was using Scaler2 to generate some chord progressions which I then can plug into Hapax. I was working in F Lydian mode which according to Scaler2 contains F G A B C D E, and this seems to be referenced on the Internet also. Scaler2 also suggests A# is a common alternative note.

However in Hapax, F Lydian is F G A B C D D#

I’m not the greatest in theory so is this a mistake or is there another Lydian mode inside Hapax that I’m not seeing.

Side note: it would be great to be able to program scales - this would resolve any issues like this.

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Currently, the only Lydian scale available in Hapax is the Lydian Dominant, a.k.a. Lydian b7, hence the Eb instead of the E.

So the bug seems to be that the regular Lydian diatonic mode is missing, rather than the Lydian Dominant being incorrect. I’ll open a bug report.

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Got it - thanks for the clarification. Hoping user scales might be a future addition :-))

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I hope they will add an option to auto detect the correct scale dependent on the existing notes in the clip. The Deluge does exactly this with just 1 press on a button. Pretty genius, as you don’t have to scroll through lots and lots of scales.

Also a “fold” option (similar to Ableton) to just show the rows of existing notes, so hide the others. That would be extremely useful!

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Yeah to both of those - especially fold.

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Just noticed with the latest update Lydian still isn’t there?

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Yeah I was doing a lesson with my student who wrote a piece in Lydian and it was embarrassing that this mode was not available. We had to do a workaround.

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give me that lydian bruhhh, please add it in 2.20 @Thibault @squarpadmin :pleading_face::pleading_face::pleading_face:

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It’s honestly a bit confusing how the scales are presented, in Maj/Min/Dom categories. Why not Major, then all the major modes. Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian. In that order. Then do the minor modes, etc. Right now it’s sort of a random mish-mash instead of any order based on music theory. Am I wrong on this? Is anyone else confused by how Hapax presents scales?

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you are not alone :slight_smile:

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I can’t say if you’re wrong or not :slightly_smiling_face:. But I share your confusion in the way they are presented.

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The still hasn’t been sorted in 2.30! Still no regular Lydian. Using my Digitone 2 for this in the interim. And yes - I still find it confusing the way the scales are presented

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great suggestions

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totally agree

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the way the scales are organized and the lack of regular lydian is totally unacceptable. any theory workbook would never organize scales like these. please, just give us the major, minor, and the regular modes of both! ionian, dorian, phyrigian, lydian, mixolydian, aeolian, locrian, IN THAT ORDER!

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i really hope they tackle this before they release 2.30, can’t really figure out why some essential scales like lydian are missing in such a capable device!

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I messaged support on this (pointing them to this thread). They responded saying they will “soon work on it”.

Whether that means implementing regular lydian or changing how the scales are presented (or both) is unclear. But I’m taking it as a positive.

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well, at least proper lydian scales have been implemented in the latest beta :smiley: can anyone confirm if the incorrect scales were fixed?

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I think the ‘incorrect scales’ thread title is a misunderstanding related to the missing regular lydian and the lydian dominant that was there. See the first reply.

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