Trying to find a way of setting my own user scale, either per track or as the project scale but I’m can’t find anything. I know there’s a lot of scales already but it seems like a super-simple feature to add?
Am I missing how to do this or is it not possible? Yet…
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It is not yet possible.
Oh damn, I was hoping to find a why of doing this, let’s hope it’s a possibility to in the future.
I think I’ll put in a request.
Are there any plans to implement this? It would be very helpful when working on tracks with ‘borrowed’ chords for example (which may use one or two notes outside the set scale). Or to simply deselect certain notes and let Random do its thing.
This is something I’d like too. There are many scales they have that are great, but there is the odd time I’d like to add or remove a key to match my music tastes. Have you asked them yet? They are so helpful and do listen if you send in a feature request here - Contact us | Squarp instruments
If you haven’t I can later.
I hadn’t asked. But I have now ![]()
Hear back from them at all?
Nope.
Lot of Scales already, I would have prioritize a custom Arpeggiator instead…
But you could make custom arpeggiations with user scales. For example in my modular I have an Intellijel Scales quantiser. I can define any scale. What I often do is use a regular scale (major, minor, dorian etc) and then remove the notes I don’t want to occur. Sending a synchronised LFO through it with triggers to fit the rhythm equals instant user arpeggiator.
To do this I use Track 16 as a leading track, you can set your Scale from here.
And it’s live…
Revisiting this. Can you explain this? Are you saying you can kind of fake a user scale by selecting desired note in T16 which is then used to force other tracks to use only those notes.
I can’t try it right now but will later!
Is this on the roadmap?
Not OP, but I’ve done this as well. You’d want to use the CHRD (Match Chord) under the TR16 TRSP on the project settings page. Tracks 1-15 will then lock to any notes active on track 16. It’s been a little bit since I’ve done it, but I believe you’d just use Hold or Latch with any notes you want in your scale and the rest of the tracks will lock to that scale.
Still, I also hope proper user scales get added at some point.
Really would love this feature. I had a student over today and we couldn’t find Lydian in the scale list, only Lydian dominant. The way the scales are laid out makes no sense. It should be laid out like in music theory, Major modes (in ORDER: Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, etc…) then Minor Modes, etc.
The problem here is the in my option bad design decision to mix up transposition with chord match.
Chord match is more or less a note pool which can also be used for user defined scales by using the lowest or loudest (max velocity) as root.
But you loose the very useful transposition feature.
I would like be able to select none or any other track as the transposition track for a track, just using the lowest or loudest note as transposition target. Same for chord match, let any track choose any other track as chord match track. The choose transpose and chord match tracks can, but need not be the same. A little loop check has to be done here but that’s not real technical problem.
This would unlock huge possibilities.
Echoing support for custom scales. I feel like this is the future of where we are heading with music in general.. There are so many pitch values and pitch values that exist.. it’s crazy that each pitch is locked in and we can’t have microtuning options.
I’m working in max/msp to direct note values to custom note divisions. I’m experimenting with pre-bach era tunings to see how slight tuning differences affect music from that era.
microtuning and custom scales are so clutch for ambient music.
Stealing this quote for another device similar to the hapax, “Some software synth (Asturia Pigments or Reveal Spire), Eurorack modules (µTune) and DAWs (Bitwig) can import tuning tables made with Scala (scl-files).
Thus, I thought I ask you guys if you ever thought about to add an import features for SCL scale files for additional tunings? It would be magic to use microtonal tuning and analog synths with OXI”
I’m not too familiar with Scala, but it seems like this would be a good way to implement this.
Ableton Live just released a new version that really takes their DAW in custom tuning and tempo directions. I feel like this is a must have for the growth of sequencers and getting people out of major, minor martin luther scales of antiquity
A FOLD feature for the Grid like Ableton would resolve a lot of problem with the Hapax including Custom Scales, more than 8 lanes for DRUM on Poly Track, and better visibility on the grid for notes editing on the STEP page, when you have high notes and low notes on the same sequence you must scroll up and down and even sometimes you can’t even see a full chord on the grid because one low note or high note is hidden, really it’s a nightmare.
For AUTOMATIONS we need a Min/Max range setting and better reflection on the GRID, a lot of parameter are NOT 0-127
sometimes you need to control a button or a knob that has only 3 or 4 or 15 or WHATEVER
actually it looks like an UNFINISHED feature. For example LOOPY PRO is far more advanced in terms of Midi CC settings…
MIDI notes are just a set of 127 discrete values, so a scale as far as the Hapax is concerned is nothing more than a subset of these values. The tuning and actual pitch of each note is up to the instrument that receives the message.
I guess what could be done is an effect that adds specific offsets to specific notes on the CV out. It could work in a similar way with MIDI pitch bend, though only per channel, and the result would be dependent on the bend range configured on the synth.
That’s 100% a great point. MIDI by design locks in those discrete values that get translated to a specific frequency.. probably subdivided at 440 hrtz .
It seems like pitch bend is the only thing that would let you modulate in terms of minute cent values.. you’d have to save each 127 notes with its own pitch bend value deviated from the standard tuning.
Definitely not Hapax’s fault but a design built into instruments since the dawn of MIDI.
i’ll keep working in max msp and create a patch the routes 0-126 values to different frequencies and use instruments that let me set specific frequency values.
Grid like instruments such as the hapax are going to be perfect for exploring microtones, vs a traditional piano layout where 12-tet and so forth have baked in formulas for how to play within the octaves