I know there’s no way to easily change things from 1/16th notes to, say, 1/4 notes or whole notes. I often write sequences at one division and then want to change them to be other divisions. What’s the best and easiest way to accomplish this in the existing workflow, NOT using the % based time stretch.
in what context do you wish to change divisions?
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I guess I can double and halve with the arrow keys, but I’m looking for a way to achieve taking the same melodic content in the poly sequencer and hearing it in different divisions. 1/8th notes, dotted 1/8th, triplets, 1/16th notes, etc. There isn’t really an easy way to manipulate it musically in that way, so I’m looking for tips!
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EDIT: Decided to update this since my original response did not really address the issue the OP was asking.
There has been some conversation about the way the Hapax handles divisions. It’s a bit detailed and I tried my best to explain the logic behind it in this post:
Considering that there has been a lot of support for this feature, perhaps this is something that can be amended in a future update. But that remains to be seen.
Speaking for myself, I would only want them to add this feature if they could also continue to keep sequences “division agnostic” as I outline in the post I linked. I’m not sure if that’s possible, but I’m not a programmer. So maybe there’s a solution I’m unaware of.
zoom out on the pattern, select some time selection and then warp it to half or double length.
Do you have an example of what this would look like in another sequencer? I still think you might be able to get some things in line by warping the selection and doing a little math for the ratio you warp it at, maybe even switching the grid to triplet mode and nudging the selection into a triplet division. I’d have to experiment to see if thats possible
Yes, in OXI One I can just change the division of the track. I really wish this were possible in Hapax. For instance, I can just set track 1 to go at 1/16th notes but track 2 to go at 1/8th notes. This sort of workflow is pretty important to how I work and it’s always a drag to make it work on the Hapax. I love the % time elasticity but it’s not very musical. It would be far more useful to be able to change divisions per track.
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yeah this is basically what i’ve been doing but it’s destructive whereas just changing the division is not.
Not to belabor the point (because believe me, I’d like to have this feature on the Hapax as much as you do), but if you were to look through the Oxi forums for feature requests you will see posts asking for something similar to how the Hapax operates. That is to say, they want to mix and match different divisions on the same track, ie mix 1/4 notes with 1/2 notes with 1/16 notes, etc. Which is what I also want. The issue is, you can’t have it both ways. For example, you can either design a sequencer where you can mix divisions (the Hapax) OR a sequencer where you are restricted to one division per track but are able to transition between them (the Oxi). There are advantages and disadvantages to both. If the Squarp devs are able to solve this riddle and create a way that both options can co-exist, that would be awesome. I would imagine that it’s easier said than done.
I understand what you’re saying. But you can place longer notes on the OXI. If you choose 32nd notes you’re limited to that as the shortest, but you can place notes like 1/16th notes if you connect two. All I really want is a way for the clock to operate by division per track, and it’d speed up or slow down over the content you have just like the time elasticity but jump to divisions (musical divisions, I mean!)
I agree that it is possible to mix and match different divisions on the same track, but it’s not possible to do it with the ease that you can on the Hapax. For example, I don’t always know in advance if I’m going to be using 16th notes, quarter notes, 32nd notes, etc. I like to experiment with different divisions and see what I come up with. Sometimes I try a mix of certain divisions and want to try something different.
The disadvantage with the Oxi One is that I have to constantly think about the math of which divisions I want to use. If I want to create a sequence that has a mix of 1/8th notes, 1/4 notes and 16th notes, I would have to spend some time thinking about which notes I want to join and how many step I want to use to join them. What if I decide I want to start with a base foundation of 8th notes for a sequence and want to mix in a few 16th notes for variety? Well, because I started with 8th notes as my foundation, I’ve been “locked” out of 16th notes. So now my only options for notes I can mix with 8th notes are 1/4, 1/2 and whole notes. Sure, I could start with a 1/16th note sequencer and choose 8 steps every time I want to insert an 1/8th note, but if 1/8th notes are supposed to be the foundation of my sequence and I only want to sprinkle in 1/16th notes, this becomes a more laborious task.
Hapax solves this issue by making tracks “division agnostic”. This makes it easier to mix and match divisions without having to think about how many 1/16th notes I need to make an 1/8th note or 1/4 notes or being forced to start with a “base” division that I have to force all other notes to fit around. I can easily move between divisions on the same track by choosing a division and hitting one note while having Hapax figure out how many steps it needs. This makes it easier to come up with more varied melodies than I could if I were forced to only one step length where ever step is the same division OR I’m spending more time manually experimenting with step lengths than with making melodies.
Just want to be clear, I’m on your side. I also have an Oxi One and what your requesting is one of the things I like about the Oxi One. But I also like the ease with which I can mix divisions on the Hapax without having to think about it.
I lack dev-level expertise, so perhaps I’m way off base and there is some way to have both ways. Maybe there is some way to get the clock to operate by division per track, as you suggest. I’m curious to see how the Reliq handles divisions. Perhaps there is another way of doing this.
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Reliq has a “speed” parameter per track. So essentially the same as OXI. So far very simple divisions though (x2, x4, x8, /2, /4, /8, etc)
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Ah, okay. I must have missed that when speed reading through the Reliq manual. I’d love to see a demo of how Track Speed and Duration Offset work together on the Reliq to create variation.
Team Squarp, I hope you’re seeing this thread. Perhaps there is some way to figure this out?