Best time elasticity for polymeters?

Overall my experience has been a little cold trying to get effective polyrhythms going, specifically poly meters.

Any tips for either? What percentages to use?

noodling around with my 303 clone for a few hours in Step Mode, polymeters seemed better achieved by using the loop point functions for a given pattern to shorten it below 4/4 (elasticity only appeared to slow or speed up the pattern relatively)

Loop points

Loop points allow you to set up in real-time where your pattern begins and ends. Only the pattern inside your loop points will be played. You can set different loop points for every pattern within every track.

When composing, it is a great way to loop a small part you want to focus on. When performing, you can play with track positions and create interesting effects like beat repeats or polymeters.

Warping comes in handy when playing around with loop points :wink:

WARPING

When a multiple-events selection is active, you can warp your events in time by using + and - .
In other words, you can compress or expand rhythms.

Example 1

  1. In zoom x1, place three events on consecutive pads, to create three 16th notes.
  2. Now select these events, making sure the selection spans exactly three columns, i.e. three 16th notes.
  3. Press + .

The three events now span four 16th notes, and are still regularly spaced, which results in triplets.

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Example 2

  1. In zoom x1, place five events on consecutive pads, to create five 16th notes.
  2. Now select these events, making sure the selection spans exactly five columns, i.e. five 16th notes.
  3. Press - .

The five events now span four 16th notes, and are still regularly spaced, which results in quintuplets.

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Of course, you can press + and - multiples times, and program complex rhythms, polyrhythms and swings easil

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Really good idea, I wonder if that’s a work around of sorts or intentional polymeter tool so to say.

I would like to find a good use for elasticity too I suppose, it seems very intentional and I’m trying to understand the usefulness.

I think elasticity is good for ambient sounds where no β€œrhythm” present.
blips and blorps slowly shifting, drones droning, etc… :slight_smile:

I think this question is why one could ask for fractions instead of (or as well as) percentages. Fractions is in the DNA of rhythm.

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Agree!

I use fugue machine on iPad it makes this easy and is very musical

You can reproduce this on hapax but I think to use elasticity it would need to have a bigger range than 50-200

Basically you copy a pattern then stretch or shrink each one as you mentioned and select octaves, speed direction etc.

fugue machine style on hapax

iOS app by Alexandernaut