How are cumulated midi CC

Hello

I got a question about midi CC : if I got both LFO and Enveloppe going to the same CC106 i feel like both infos are in conflict. I thought they would be calculated.

I tried with 2 lfos on opposite phases and instead of canceling it was sounding like filter going crazy. With can be fun be is there anyway to have the system taking an average when 2 CC are sent together ?

Thanks

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I was finally finding a correct way to cumulate infos on the same direction: if you have a first enveloppe on a Cutoff for example, then you will direct the LFO to the offset of this enveloppe instead of Cutoff. It’s becoming harder if you have a second LFO

But now I did a track with a keytrack to the Cutoff, and then it is not possible to choose as enveloppe destination the offset of this keytrack

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That’s a good idea for some more complex modulation. Inspired by your idea, I tried the same but with an LFO modulating the offset of another LFO. Modulating depth seems to work very well too.

It doesn’t sound quite the same as assigning two LFOs to the filter cutoff within the synth I’m testing on. The synth I’m testing this with (Opsix) also allows for custom CC assigning - assigning two different CCs to filter cutoff and then using two LFOs on Hapax to modulate each CC individually sounds pretty good as well.

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Yes but it happened to me to have different enveloppes to different destinations, + LFOs sometime going to a common destionation, + another LFO modulating speed of LFO1 or maybe a parameter of Env 1 and next day when you get back on the song you are just totally lost !!!

So by the way you can’t name your FX ? It would be easier.

And now I’m more and more using automation default value to edit my synth patch, being much more practical (and also for my health I better control all the studio far from it). But it turns to nightmare then to find back wich offset is the ā€œmainā€ one , and I don’t think you can modulate it with 2 other things, you need the 3rd one to act on the offset of the 2nd, 4th acting on offset of 3rd. And if later you remove the 2nd effect then you have to change all destinations !

So I really hope they can change it (and I don’t tink it will be impossible for the processor)

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i requested user definable ā€˜patches’ for all FX and that it be available to modulation input so that fits well. you would be able to name the patches in a list then recall with an event making the hapax modulation experience multi faceted and potentially very deep! a dream, actually.

give us 128 of them and we could make a variety for each ā€˜song’ or even make it per project file with a default set you can edit then re save with the project file. then naturally you could also ā€˜update default patch bank’ if you changed your FX to something you like better!