This behavior is intended if you are using the live looper. It keeps the start points when you started your recording on this track compared to the other tracks.
This really does seem like quite a buggy behavior - can you explain what you mean by it keeping the start point compared to other tracks? I’m pretty sure what most people would expect (and in the most natural sounding implementation) the track would go back to the start when you finish recording, just like a loop pedal.
I don’t quite understand the reasoning for making this otherwise - is it meant to help keep tracks in sync with each other? It’s really confusing.
for me this behavior is expected (i’m not saying its perfect) but i tried to make a drawing to better explain why and whats happening if it makes sense to you.
sorry if i made you look dumb just wanted to make clear its not “buggy” or maybe it is, but not in this case
My advice would be to set the looper to 1 bar (could not make it start from any other then 1 with this setting.
Or turn the looper of and set the track length before you record.
(sorry changed my advice as i realized it did not work after testing)
This does not seem to be the behavior the live looper is exhibiting - If you record a long pattern (several bars) on top of a 4/4 loop, when you stop recording it doesn’t go back to the start of the loop like your picture suggests, it usually jumps to somewhere in the middle of the pattern, and it’s not even predictable. Is this how the looper is working for you? Because the picture doesn’t really clear things up very much, that is how it should work, but it doesn’t seem to work this way.
well that way i would loose the flexibility i like about this approach
i don’t want to start playing on 1, because i maybe don’t want a note on 1 . Also i’m not player … i play with bad timing .
I’d like to have a looper that always starts at 1 like every other pattern in the pyramid but extends the length of the pattern as i play … it seemed i hav this, but then i noticed the mentioned problem, wich makes the feature almost useless to me
perhaps i misunderstanding … but behaviour seems correct to me…
so the live looper is for layering tracks, so you want it to keep its start point with respect to other tracks, otherwise what you record, is not going to be what you get when you play back…!?
(I’ll admit it would be a nice feature of @squarpadmin could allow this ‘offset’ to be adjusted e.g. if you get your timing slightly out)
if you want the looper to start recording on the bar boundary, have you tried setting “default perform” to 1 bar. for me setting live looper = 1 bar, default perform = 1 bar, gets me pretty much what i want, even if my timing is a bit off
default perform does have other uses, so perhaps it would be nice if the live looper had its own ‘quantise start’ option - but not sure if its necessary as default perform 1 bar works nicely for me.
That’s how I want it to work too, but it seems to be glitchy when recording long patterns - like I said, if you record a longer pattern of several bars, when you hit “stop recording”, instead of starting from the beginning again it usually jumps to some random part in the middle.
to be honest i don’t understand why it is necessary to offset the start point of a track to keep things as you played them?
when you start every track at 1 and just put the notes as played it’s all fine. No?
however … if that actual behavior is good for some people - fine. A possibility to modify the start point afterwards would hurt no-one who doesn’t need it - but help in some cases
Are you both using default perform = 1 bar?
Because if I have that, then I seem to get the behavior @verstaerker illustrates.
ie recording/playback starts quantised on the bar.
(when first notes are played is irrelevant)
I’ll say mainly it just seems to work for me,
I activate the looper from a pedal by counting in the using 1 bar, then start playing the next bar.
For sure like a looper pedal it takes practice to get the timing right
( or as ‘right’ as I can make it , I just call the bad timing ‘humanization )
( so basically I leave default perform as beat, and just time my start manually).
If @squarpadmin is listening, I’d love to have undo/delete as a cold pedal option … for when I make mistakes ( hmm i’ll email them :))
ah, this behaviour is intended. This bit me too. I love the live looper because I don’t have to stop the sequencer and can just go and go. But eventually I do stop the sequencer and want to use the loops I’ve made. Because they don’t start on step1 but rather some other step, everything is all weird.
I, too, would like a way to control this behaviour. Either a way to change the start step of a pattern, or an option to have it prefer ‘always number 1’.